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To put it simply, monopoly.

siebel(湘皖酒家)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Even though Siebel's monopoly is cut down a lot. It's still dominant in CRM, just like MS in PC. More concretely:

1. Most of the Siebel's customers are giant (like bank, insurance, and so on). This means abnormal profit. Generally, rich firms would like to pay more to get good products and services. Siebel can keep the price until the goal turns to the small to medium enterprises.

2. The sales person of Siebel knows nothing about Siebel. They have the ability to sell their products before the customer understand what it is. Oracle, Enbridge, WorldCom, and .com companies become wealthy in the same way. When everyone understands what the companies are doing, these companies will lose money.

3. Sieble's customer service is bad. This means they don't have enough time to build up his yard. The company going forward too fast is like this.

4. Siebel's business in China is worse than most of its rivals (Oracle, People soft, sap). Because the businesses in America and Europe are too much for Siebel to earn. It doesn't have time to care the business in China (comparable, high danger, low reward).

Above all, Siebel is still fast growing. CRM is still hot. That's all. I'll loot it using half of my money once it drop down to $12-13 again更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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Last Updated: 2002-7-6
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  • 枫下茶话 / 社会 / 不在沉默中爆发，就在沉默中灭亡。 -siebel(湘皖酒家); 2002-7-6 {2341} (#621781@0)
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛这些移民来自中国（后来才知道要加 大陆 两个字才比较精确），父母基本都是共产党员，经历过若干年自然灾害和文化革命。

    中国人还意味着过一种简单的生活，至少他们小时候日子过起来一般都紧巴巴的，甚至很贫穷。比如：一般他们小时候逢年过节才能吃到肉，而平时他们只吃现在看来非常昂贵的新鲜蔬菜；水果基本上也是奢望，西红柿黄瓜夏天可以买到；精粉大米平常是吃不到的，现在很流行的粗粮才是主食；冰箱、彩电、洗衣机都是科幻小说里的东西，更别说空调电脑了。全国物理竞赛某年一道题是：把冰箱门开着是否可以使整个房间冷下来。觉得很可笑，根本不知道冰箱是什么样子，甚至没听说冰箱还有门，怎么回答呢？简直就是在问外星人有几个鼻子。

    后来少数人富起来了，大多数的妻子开始抱怨，没用的男人。男人们只好丢下自己的亲人或者带着他们涌向先富起来的地方。有一些流落在东莞深圳无锡上海，还有一些坐得起飞机的，到了多伦多、蒙特利尔。他们当中很多会coding（洋文，码砖的意思），基本上都活着。

    老白老黑老印老巴还有很多新飞来的人，都觉得这个行当很赚钱时，大家就加入了这个行业。竞争激烈了，而他们比起老白老黑老印老巴又少些Communication skills，又不会装饰妖娆自己，自然也就比他们不过。不仅工作压力大、价钱也低，甚至贴钱都干。他们挤在都市里难求生活时，还要忍受非常NICE的LOCAL、阿差、老黑、甚至先来的村里的乡亲的欺侮。比如BELL多收了某个月4.95，不管什么原因，大家就算了；连蒙带唬被签了一个GAS CONTRACT，就只好每立方多出若干钱；一不小心加入了某个组织，似乎也就无可奈何地付出每月的维持费。

    等等等等这一切，对在中国大陆长大的他们来说，必然会在心理上产生一些影响，比如自卑感、不安全感。当他们在社会上遇到难题时，他们就会避免问题，委屈自己。而社会上的问题越来越多，对自己的委屈也就越来越深。

    当生活的主旋律是快乐时，受一点委屈就象饭里多了一点盐；而主旋律是委屈的时候，这就是鲁迅所说的沉默。

    终于还是有人忍不住了，用他们绵薄的力量进行了一点点小小的抗议，只是那么小小小小的一点点抗议，必然会招来同村人的强烈反击。于是便有了所谓的“加拿大相互信任的人际关系已被亚裔文化侵蚀”，于是就见到了一听中国人就摇头的中国人。

    当双方力量对比悬殊的时候，除了“超限战”就只有死亡。而造成这种“超限战”的根源，正是不断强化的悬殊的力量对比。当那些屡受委屈而得不到伸张的人积累到一定程度，自然会做出不符合秩序的事情。而那点事情相对于他们所受到的不平等待遇而言，实在是不值一提。

    没有人关注弱势群体，他们自己又经常“委屈自己，避免问题”。结果就是问题越来越多。反过来又指责他们，强化了这种沉默。

    虽然现在看来多数人仍在沉默，很多人选择了沉默中死亡（比如YORK上吊的女生），但沉默后的爆发，似乎也在预期之中。更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • Discuss Siebel should be more interesting, why Siebel is in $13-14 and Verisign is in $6, SIebel makes 12Cent per share but Verisign makes 18center per share? -glenn2008(三國演義); 2002-7-6 (#621837@0)
      • To put it simply, monopoly. -siebel(湘皖酒家); 2002-7-6 {1275} (#621880@0)
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Even though Siebel's monopoly is cut down a lot. It's still dominant in CRM, just like MS in PC. More concretely:

        1. Most of the Siebel's customers are giant (like bank, insurance, and so on). This means abnormal profit. Generally, rich firms would like to pay more to get good products and services. Siebel can keep the price until the goal turns to the small to medium enterprises.

        2. The sales person of Siebel knows nothing about Siebel. They have the ability to sell their products before the customer understand what it is. Oracle, Enbridge, WorldCom, and .com companies become wealthy in the same way. When everyone understands what the companies are doing, these companies will lose money.

        3. Sieble's customer service is bad. This means they don't have enough time to build up his yard. The company going forward too fast is like this.

        4. Siebel's business in China is worse than most of its rivals (Oracle, People soft, sap). Because the businesses in America and Europe are too much for Siebel to earn. It doesn't have time to care the business in China (comparable, high danger, low reward).

        Above all, Siebel is still fast growing. CRM is still hot. That's all. I'll loot it using half of my money once it drop down to $12-13 again更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

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