本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛1,学生-社会经验不丰富,遇事容易冲动,作出错误判断。留学签证,由于无家无业,流动方面,更容易不考虑后果。专门绑票的则代表另一个极端。当然还有夹在中间,有处事经验,但没有绑票经验的,但是此案的特征看来冲动性强,理智计划差,因此更象没有经验的人所为。再强调,只是可能,我无法指名道姓,只能总结凶手特征。请勿对号入座。
-- most immigrants are socially extensive experienced? what is ur standard of experienced(移民是要考察工作经验的,详情请见cic网站。经验是移民合格的一个重要因素)? There are numerous gun shots in the city, i don't really think they are related to Visa students[懂不懂all与one的区别?我说了多少回,这里讨论的是杀害Cecilia的凶手,不是讨论所有的案件。是你拼命在偷换概念,打击所有留学生,把所有案件归到留学生头上!再强调这里讨论的是“which one killed Cecilia”而"all students kill"的问题是你提的,根本与 Cecilia无关,纯粹是节外生枝!请不要在提出来扰乱视听!], what is your comments on those cases then[no comments,我们在讨论谁会对Cecilia下毒手,你提出来的“numerous gun shots”与此无关,我们也无力涉及]? It sounds that you are really experienced in kidnapping and assaulting, please either choose to join the police or choose to be an author of detective story. [如果对与抓住杀害Cecilia的凶手有帮助,我会考虑你的意见]
-- don't really want to involve in your Cultural Revolution experience, most ur sayings and behaviours reminded me of that frenzy period.[你的人身攻击工夫也坡得文革真传呀,上纲上线,问题扩大化都是那时候的刹手捡]
2, 除非你先天将移民与留学生对立起来,无法得出你的“所有移民都有绑架小孩的经验”的结论。凶手的不理智,缺乏计划和惊慌失措说明极有可能凶手涉世不深。再强调我们是在讨论凶手可能是哪类人,而不是“哪类人一定是凶手”。比如凶手8成是中国人,你是不是应该立刻抗议歧视?什么人都可能出凶手,关键是这个案子是什么人做的
-- it is you who first charge Visa Student, check your sayings in the first post please.[哦,也修改一个你的语法错误哈,“Students" or "a Student"我仅仅是讨论是否可能是一个,注意一个,留学生做的,没有讨论是否全体留学生联合起来犯罪。所以请你澄清:我是否不能置疑“a student”也请你注意,我没有charge anyone, 更不要说"charge visa students”]
-- I am upset b your link on "inexperienced " with "visa student". don't you see it? poor logic and poor english [比较一下留学签证和移民签证的要求,你就明白为什么说留学生多数缺乏社会经验。更不要说多数留学生年龄比较小,而移民多数都要在原住国工作过若干时间。]
-- 比如凶手8成是中国人,你是不是应该立刻抗议歧视? of course, if this is presented on court, it is definitely an unsupported claim and will be called an "objection" by the attorney.[看电影不仔细吧?前面的判断是寻找凶手时候缩小范围的确步骤,当然不会出现在法庭上,所以律师们没有机会objection,你没看见新闻动不动说“凶手在逃,是一白人,男性”,在可以明确认定凶手的identity之前,使用其特征对其进行描述不仅合理合法,而且常见,不信你多看看新闻,或者去法庭告我一下]
-- 什么人都可能出凶手, that is rite, but you didn't say so in the first post. next time, please 不要和陈太一样信口开河 [你提起的文革倒是贴切,说什么以前都要先“为人民服务”,我们在讨论什么人可能杀害无辜的Cecilia,你非要大家说“什么人都可能出凶手”。问题不在此,而在于你无法接受“留学生里可能出凶手,才费这么大劲跟我争辩。如果象你的要求“不要心口开河”,警察也不必办案了,都回家念“什么人都可能犯案”算了。讨论此一案,最后必然落实到一类人,但这并不能说明这类人都是坏人,而你却是禁止别人讨论此一凶手是否可能是你的同类。不能因为你是什么类的人,就禁止别人讨论某一个你的同人犯罪了呀!]
3,"all tragedies now are ascribed to chinese visa students"更是神经过敏。我们在讨论谁杀害了一个天真无辜的小女孩,完全没有提到“all tragedies”是你自己扩大话题呀,当然大家都不认为有问题,只有你觉得有问题,因为问题根本是只有你在说“all tragedies”别人都在讨论Cecilia案的一个凶手而已
-- it is you who expanded the topic first, check your words in the first post again. What if i changed the title to : 凶手会是什么人?大家帮着想想,警察里华人不多,可能难以理解中国人的心理呢!似乎不是专业绑票,很象是刚来的中国新移民,没什么钱又不想去做LABOR -风头太大,吓坏了,就撕票了。估计与媒体声势太大有直接关系
WHAT DO YOU THINK? [逻辑思维!虽然中文没有单复数,你起码不应该混淆到如此地步,你理解成“凶手们都是留学生,这次风头太大下怀了,就撕票了。”]
4,agree, not only are Chinese immigrants poor, there are people out there trying to divert the topic to "who cause all the troubles" while we are here desperately trying to find out who killed THIS innocent little girl.
-- not only, but also, don't mess up with English, go back to LINC whatever to improve your language.
-- "there are people out there trying to divert the topic to "who cause all the troubles" ", next time, use Word to check grammar mistake first. it is not a sentence, learn how to compose a decent sentence first, then come to argue. [暂时没有时间切磋英文,如果你乐意在此消磨时间,总比神经过敏阶级斗争扩大化好!]更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net